We went yesterday, awesome weather, had to strip off layers as it was very hot. Loved the day, snow was great, kids had a ball, staff were great & helpful. Hope to get back during the week soon without kids to try snowboarding or skiing for the first time. Roll on more snow.. Thanks Whakapapa Team. Awesome day out and only 2hrs drive from Rotorua.
If you belong to a club and can travel to the mountain at a couple of days notice then you can pick the weather and have an awesome seasons skiing at very little cost with an early bird seasons pass. The point made by Graham regarding the ski patrol not enforcing the rules is a very valid one particularly at Turoa where there seems to be an unusually high ratio of useless young snowboarders. If you want to ski with those of a higher level of skill then you should ski at Whakapapa.
Wonderful varied natural terrain unfortunately spoiled by lack of decent facilities and ancient lifts that are slow and have massive queues on weekends. Non existent enforcement of rules by ski patrol make it dangerous as well.
You can all complain all you like about long queues, slow lifts etc but at the end of the day we have great terrain within a reasonably short distance from Auckland. Earlybird season pass prices are great and the fact that you can use the 1 pass at Whakapapa and Turoa (2 biggest fields in NZ) makes for unbeatable value.
The hike from the top of the Far West T-Bar on the West Ridge at Whakapapa to the Crater lake is highly recommended for not only the view but it gives you access to some great runs and only takes about 40mins.
Weekdays are the best days as you can usually ride onto the chairlifts but weekends aren't bad if you exercise a little patience.
I love it at Whakapapa. Varied terrain, something for everyone. Let down by the lifts, T-bars at the top get a bit tiresome after a while. Needs a proper lift to the summit to take advantage of the magnificent valley running down to the knoll T. Dept of Conservation would close the whole lot down if they had their way. They want it to look nice but your not allowed to enjoy it!!!
Whakapapa is badly let down by the poor lift system. There is only one good lift in the whole place and the queues at weekends can be huge. The two 2-seater lifts to get you up the lower mountain are the slowest lifts I have been on and the queues are a complete joke at times.
There is not much you can do about the weather that makes the place very unreliable and almost sheet ice. But the place could invest and do something with the lifts. Europe in the 60's had better lifts.
Get a nice day and the place is stunning. Blue skies are common, but expect high winds to be a problem.
The beginners area at Whakapapa is better than Turoa but still gets really busy.
If I had a choice, I would always go Turoa before Whakapapa. It's about 45 minutes drive away but worth it.
On a recent trip we skied both Whakapapa and Turoa. To my mind, if you get the right weather conditions, Mt. Ruapehu offers the best skiing in New Zealand. New Zealand's maritime climate makes for changeable weather conditions. If you are very time constrained I would recommend the South Island ski fields where the weather is more reliable but the skiing is not as good.
With a little more time to spend, then on their day Whakapapa and Turoa are, in my opinion, up there with the best for on and off-piste skiing. The next nearest comparable groomed ski field is in Japan or North America which isn't exactly round the corner. (NB: The South Island off-piste skiing is equal to the best in the world, but the good stuff is incredibly hard to get to).
We had spring skiing conditions that meant soft snow lower down and a little crusty higher up. Good for the time of year.
Some of the lifts are old and slow which can be an issue if it's very busy. That said, the new 6 seater at Turoa is world class. The high speed quad at Whakapapa is great but the field would benefit greatly with a chair to access the very highest slopes. The reliance on T-bars does a mountain of this quality a dis-service.
The facilities are ok, though in their defense, the main on-mountain restaurant at Whakapapa was destroyed in a fire earlier this year so that has put pressure on the other cafes and restaurants to take up the slack. The builders were there when we were there. The plan, we were told, is to rebuild a state of the art on-mountain restaurant in the New Zealand 2009/10 summer.
This is a great mountain for beginners and experts alike. It would be truly fantastic with a new lift or two at Whakapapa.
Highly recommended.
We went to Whakapapa for the first time with 2 small children. The cost was reasonable, snow was great, ski school was great and the kids loved every minute of the experience. Mum even got a few runs in. Lower lifts were a bit slow though and hopefully they will improve this. The restaurants at Whakapapa were very busy on the weekend - expected though, but perhaps they will improve this by building a larger facility.
Well worth the 3 hour drive to get there and can't wait to get back, will be watching the snow report closely.
I was born in NZ but have been living abroad for the past 15-years and have been lucky enough to ski a lot in the Northern Hemisphere.
Whilst I agree that the mountain, when the weather is good, is very hard to beat lets inject a dose of reality into the debate.
1. The weather is VERY unpredictable. This is a mountain that rises out of a desert plain. Accordingly, it is very exposed to the wind. Mountain closures are frequent and the upper mountain is particularly susceptible to closure.
2. The lifts are old and slow. The problem with this is that they are susceptible to the wind. If it is blowing more than 40mph it is almost certain they will not open the upper mountain, regardless of weather. If the weather looks a bit dodgy, only buy a lower mountain pass in the morning as you can always upgrade it later in the day. If you go for a full mountain pass there are no refunds if you can't use it.
3. Bulk of the grooming is done in the morning and the de-icing seems to take forever, so you'll be lucky to hit the upper mountain earlier than 10.30-11.00am. Seems to be no urgency to get the upper mountain open in the morning.
4. Equipment hire on the mountain is average and if you are a good but ocassional skier and like to use 'executive' or 'demo' rentals forget it. My advice is get your gear before you come to the mountain or there are a few good places in Ohakune.
5. The food on the mountain is poor and expensive and space is limited. Accordingly, bring a packed lunch and avoid the traditional 12-2pm lunch break if you want to sit down.
6. I would give terrain a 7 out of 10. It would get a higher rating but the runs aren't all that long - particularly the challenging runs.
Overall this is not a bad mountain but the experience can be really dragged down by the unpredictability of the weather and poor on-snow activities (cafe, hire, grooming, lifts).
If you're stuck in the North Island, then this is the place for you but give yourself a week and plan for some down time. If you have the ability to get to the South Island then my advice is do it and give Ruapehu a miss.
I think you will find that every 5 years or so, you can ski to the Chateau, I did it about 2 weeks ago.
What Whakapapa does offer is some pretty intense terrain, if you have the skills and knowledge to ski it. I have skied in many places across the world, and even though it may not as good as many of those resorts, in my mind, Whakapapa is the best resort in New Zealand (on its day)
Treble Cone has amazing snow, but over the last few years I have had several powder (actual powder) days that would better TC, with the advantage of much more terrain.
You are right about the 1m to cover the rocks, but its been 3 years since we haven't had enough, ever heard of weather cycles? Hear about how bad the season was on the east coast of the states last year?
I encourage you to go skiing soon, it's insane down there.
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