Vail has created new low standards opening the alpine on Whistler Mtn.
Last year was bad due to an unconventional snowpack, this year we haven’t heard their excuses yet.
Is it money saving, poor management and or worst; lack of experienced patrollers?
Harmony and t-bars used to be open as often as 7th and Peak much more than the past 2 years.
I've been a season pass or Edge card holder for over 20 years but this is it for me and my family. Long lines, lifts not working, alpine area rarely open or open late in the morning (I know it's been a challenging snow season, but there is some fundamental flaw when moderate snow and seasonal temperatures shut down operations), decline in food quality and increase in price mean that the value is not there for us anymore, even though we live just over an hour from the hill.
We're going to spend our ski dollars on a trip to the Interior to ski for half the price on mountains with no crowds and more reliable snow.
The delays getting lifts open each day means the alpine area is rarely open. After a cold night and 10cm of snow it should not take until 1.30 pm to get Glacier or Harmony lifts operating. Your mountain management really detracts from the customer experience. I am surprised people are prepared to wait 45 minutes in a lift line at $200 a day-. I will not be back no matter how beautiful Whistler is. Measure your skiable minutes and you would rank extremely poorly.
I just found out that after 2 years under Vail Resorts management, WB’s ranking tumbled from #1 to #7 and I expect it to get even lower after their poor performance so far this season.
How is this possible?
I feel for the staff that spent a lifetime working from a back woods resort in the 80-90’s towards being #1 and staying on it for years.
Hopefully, in the near future they will do more “we’re listening” and start taking proper measures to climb back up in the rankings.
Just back from 5 days skiing in Whistler-Blackcomb. Skiing and weather, always a tricky combination. Monday 3rd Feb was great sun, other days stuck in the mid to lower sections to avoid white-out. C'est la vie. But the queues on Monday morning were extreme and this was a Monday outside school holidays. The subsequent queues at 7th Heaven, on Blackcomb, were also hell. Guess I've been spoilt by Trois Vallee and Super Dolomiti. The weather meant we missed WB's main selling point of great powder. But the queues and expensive lunches in massive warehouses for restaurants, plus the lift passes double the price of Europe, detached from the experience.
Just returned from 10 days snowboarding in Whistler and although a great holiday with friends it's not a resort I would rush back to.
Top part of both mountains don't seem to be open until late morning, at best. Lifts not working, keep stopping, slow and only one 6 seater in the resort. The peak-to-peak was closed for two days for de-icing and maintenance. It's Jan/Feb in a snow resort!
We had two days of rain, including the top of the mountain which was bizarre. Ok, that's nature, but not something I've experienced anywhere else. Yet, Whistler claimed they had lots of new snow... no way. The next day was like an ice bowl. Lift queues on the Sat/Sun were awful. Took us an hour before we actually started a run. Serious investment in lift infrastructure and opening of higher mountain early is required to get people spread out across the terrain.
Resort was good though, lots of choice for food and drink and the staff very friendly.
I have been skiing Whistler Blackcomb since it opened in the 60's and have seen gradual improvements ever since, until Vale took over that is. Intrawest was the very best organization and took seriously the management of every detail. Since Vale took ownership the attention to the ski experience has deteriorated just about everywhere and their communication of reasoning for closures and their timing is pathetic. I'm seriously considering not renewing my seasons pass for next year. I was proud of Whistler as one of the best in the world, but not any more.