Hi everyone, what a dump we are getting! Of course I will have to wait a minimum of 3 days to ski the mountain, things have changed but not that much..
I did not get run over by an instructor this year, instead it was a Brazilian beginner snowplowing at about 40kph. I wish these people with whistles would " blow their toys" at the right people, not expert skiers who have not run into anyone in 39 years of skiing.
The grooming has improved a lot this year. Congratulations!
Please read John's message to see how unreal this place can get...
Please come, enjoy the food, people and the mountain. Take care and good luck.
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Hike at Cerro Catedral if you want to ski any vertical or decent terrain. I agree that the runs have far too many cat tracks cut into them...so that beginner skiers can get down the mountain. This is unfortunate when you are skiing down a pitch and hit one. This resort gives great access to the backcountry...Refugio Frey and Jakob.
Hi there to everyone.
Cerro Catedral has at the time the best quality snow ever..
Best groomed in history.
I would give 10 points to the administration of the mountain.
Everyone is happy with this.
Also let you know than it's a snowbike friendly ski area!
As a matter of fact Cerro Catedral has the newest lifts in Argentina.
So relax, get to the slopes and...enjoy the snow!
Today we had wonderful snow in the mountain at Cerro Catedral. Unfortunately, Catedral Alta Patagonia opened less than 20% of the mountain. Only Intermedia and Punta Nevada (Cuadruple) were available. In theory it was because of the strong wind. People at Alta Patagonia have to know that it is not unusual for a mountain to have strong wind. By the way, I have had stronger winds in other resorts both in Argentina and other countries and most of the lifts remained opened. In my view the problem is that in Cerro Catedral lifts are too old. However, they charge for the tickets as if they have excellent lifts. Unfortunately, nothing has changed!
I'm traveling to Catedral (Cerro Catedral) next week. It's encouraging to read better reviews this year. Hopefully, Alta Patagonia has learned from past seasons and understood that its duty as ski resort manager is to open most of the lifts every day (in a mountain it happens to snow from time to time), to provide groomed runs, to prevent avalanches etc.
I'll send my fair report of Cerro Catedral once in the mountain.
I live at Cerro Catedral for the past 6 winters and most of the comments are way out of date - they bought 6 new grooming machines and are using them well with more groomed terrain open than I have seen - great news for groomed run skiers and for those who love this place for the tree skiing that has been awesome already so far.
I have been in Cerro Catedral the last 4 winter seasons and I really have fun. There are plenty of tracks and the mountain is enormous, unique in Argentina!! In spite of what some people say, for me the service in Catedral was excellent. Last year, I went with a friend and she had a strong accident. The employees in charge of mountain security and patrol worked fast and effectively and thanks to that my friend is fine! This year we are planning to go again, and have fun as usual!! We're waiting anxiously for our winter holiday in Catedral!
Snow is starting to fall in Bariloche, and is great because we are on top of the winter season.
I live in Buenos Aires and although Catedral (Cerro Catedral) is not the nearest ski resort to go from here, I return every winter because, with plenty of snow, it is the best mountain for skiing in South America.
As many things in Latin America it has things to improve, but it do has great runs, great views and friendly people... What else can you expect from a ski week?
I've been four times in Bariloche. A beautiful place with incredible landscape. The mountain is great, the slopes could be very interesting but the company is really a disaster! No grooming, no segnalization, very old lifts, bad organization, big queues and expansive like USA or Europe; the service for costumers is lightyears; far from the tops resort....
This was my third season at Catedral (Cerro Catedral). After moving here two and a half years ago I absolutely fell in love with Bariloche and especially Catedral the mountain, hence a one season boarding holiday turned into starting a business here and Argentine residency.
The first season: 2007, was incredible snow, amazing powder practically every week and all the way down to the base. Everyone said to us don't expect the snow to be like this again, what we were not told was how bad the mountain is operated when there is little or no snow.
Admittedly, the last two seasons have not been good snow in general. However, the mountain is operated in such a ridiculously poor manner, that if it does snow, it really doesn't make much difference as Alta Patagonia never put the snow to work, i.e from the start of the season grooming the slope evenly and thoroughly to create a good piste base. The annoying thing is that they have plenty of snow cats to easily groom the mountains, unfortunately these are often left buried in snow; genious management. About two weeks ago they had a grooming competition, but hey, lets not get them to actually groom the slopes for paying customers.
I am not going to repeat comments about rocks/stones, queues, car park fees, old lifts (one of which I have never heard of or seen running in 3 years) run at half speed to save the company on the electricity bills, the lack of knowledge or assistance, the high price of the tickets, most of the mountain not being open, etc, wow this list is huge and I could keep going.
The only redeeming quality is the Cerro Catedral mountain itself, which is spectacular and lots of fun when you make the effort. The management company is doing everything, it seems, in its power to destroy this image. Do Alta Patagonia predict another economic crash on the horizon? Is this the reason they have the wost customer service relations of any ski resort in the world, thinking lets rip them off as much as possible now, make as much money as we can now, 'cause in a few years there might not be anyone here? Can such a large company seriously run itself so badly? I can not think of any other reason why a company would treat its customers with such disdain and disrespect.
For example, 2 days ago when there actually was amazing powder, we did some excellent off-piste; off-piste because only 3 lifts were open. After doing a run we ended up walking down to top of Princessa 1, which was still running. We went to get on, and save ourselves a 40 min walk down the mountain, but were told it was closed. We asked if they let us down? After a 30 minute wait they said yes, and started the lift (it ran the quickest I had seen in the last 3 years). On arrival at the bottom we were accosted by Catedral staff, demanding our pass numbers, in a very aggressive way, with one guy going so far as grabbing a girl by the arm and trying to shake her pass number out of her, but with no reason as to why they were asking us for this we all left. They then pursued some of the people and then sent the police after others. Totally mindblowing considering we had asked, patiently waited and were then told it was fine for us to go down. Do they understand customer service and satisfaction.
To finish, I really can't see the Cerro Catedral mountain changing its business practices, unless it is forced. I really wish this wasn't the case as I myself work in tourism in Bariloche and AltaPatagonia is extremely damaging to winter tourism in this beautiful place I now call home, which in turn is damaging my business and that of thousands of others working in the same field.
Recently there has been many protests over Wal-Mart coming to Bariloche. When will the protests begin to the local council, to force a change in the methods or ownership of the one company that is single handedly destroying winter tourism in Bariloche.
From
a concerned snowboarder